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		<title>By: Dennis Chighisola</title>
		<link>http://www.coachchic.com/the-kind-of-coach-we-dont-want-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Chighisola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, considering all this discussion, perhaps it&#039;s time for me to share something rather personal.

For, a few years back a one game occurrence caused my grandson to declare to his coach that, &quot;i quit!&quot; Hours later, back home, I know he was looking for my support as he related what had happened.  With that -- and since I know there are a lot of hockey parents here in our membership, I&#039;d like each of them to put themselves in my shoes...  

Oh, on the one hand, we parents have good reason to ache for our flesh and blood, and we might just have the feeling that if our youngster quits, the coach will suffer a little pain of his or her own.  That, however, would be a very shortsighted approach.

No, I wasn&#039;t going to be an enabler for my young guy; his long-term happiness was my main concern.  So I asked him what he was going to do next.  Actually, I helped him a bit with the answer, noting a few not-so-great alternatives.  Then, when he asked what I&#039;d do under the circumstances, I offered, &quot;I&#039;d call your coach right now, I&#039;d apologize, and then I guess I&#039;d have to see what happens from there.&quot;

The good part of this story is that it&#039;s -- at least so far -- had a pretty happy ending.  That &quot;mean ole coach&quot; (LOL) honored my guy with a team captaincy 2-years later, and the two have remained great friends since graduation.  More recently, my young buddy has set some school records as a freshman hockey player.

Again, this is a kinda personal story, but it&#039;s worth sharing if it saves just one member family.  In fact, if I&#039;d had the chance to help my new friend Dan in the same way some years ago, I wonder if things could have turned out differently for him, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, considering all this discussion, perhaps it&#8217;s time for me to share something rather personal.</p>
<p>For, a few years back a one game occurrence caused my grandson to declare to his coach that, &#8220;i quit!&#8221; Hours later, back home, I know he was looking for my support as he related what had happened.  With that &#8212; and since I know there are a lot of hockey parents here in our membership, I&#8217;d like each of them to put themselves in my shoes&#8230;  </p>
<p>Oh, on the one hand, we parents have good reason to ache for our flesh and blood, and we might just have the feeling that if our youngster quits, the coach will suffer a little pain of his or her own.  That, however, would be a very shortsighted approach.</p>
<p>No, I wasn&#8217;t going to be an enabler for my young guy; his long-term happiness was my main concern.  So I asked him what he was going to do next.  Actually, I helped him a bit with the answer, noting a few not-so-great alternatives.  Then, when he asked what I&#8217;d do under the circumstances, I offered, &#8220;I&#8217;d call your coach right now, I&#8217;d apologize, and then I guess I&#8217;d have to see what happens from there.&#8221;</p>
<p>The good part of this story is that it&#8217;s &#8212; at least so far &#8212; had a pretty happy ending.  That &#8220;mean ole coach&#8221; (LOL) honored my guy with a team captaincy 2-years later, and the two have remained great friends since graduation.  More recently, my young buddy has set some school records as a freshman hockey player.</p>
<p>Again, this is a kinda personal story, but it&#8217;s worth sharing if it saves just one member family.  In fact, if I&#8217;d had the chance to help my new friend Dan in the same way some years ago, I wonder if things could have turned out differently for him, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Offerdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.coachchic.com/the-kind-of-coach-we-dont-want-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Offerdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my case, I love the game too much not to play regardless of what a coach did. However, in the second example, I was prepared not to return to the team until the coach did call and apologize. It was my senior year of high school and after 12 years of hockey, I wasn&#039;t going to put up with a coach pulling that kind of stuff. 

These days, there is a junior A team in town, and I would&#039;ve probably gone that route over high school hockey if the team was around when I was in school (only the junior team&#039;s 2nd season).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my case, I love the game too much not to play regardless of what a coach did. However, in the second example, I was prepared not to return to the team until the coach did call and apologize. It was my senior year of high school and after 12 years of hockey, I wasn&#8217;t going to put up with a coach pulling that kind of stuff. </p>
<p>These days, there is a junior A team in town, and I would&#8217;ve probably gone that route over high school hockey if the team was around when I was in school (only the junior team&#8217;s 2nd season).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Chighisola</title>
		<link>http://www.coachchic.com/the-kind-of-coach-we-dont-want-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Chighisola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a brief follow-up to that, Dan...  I&#039;ve had the feeling for a long time that our love for the game -- when we get older -- comes from the sum-total of our earlier experiences.  I mean, even if we had a few rough bumps in the road, we&#039;ll still very much love the game if the good (or great) experiences out-weigh those.  That&#039;s why I make such a big deal out of our confidence-building in my posts here.  

Also, let&#039;s face it:  if a player feels good about himself (or herself) after a given rink visit, he likely dies to do more.  And he&#039;s likely to work on his game at home.  With that, there tends to be a snowballing effect -- do well at the rink, practice extra, do better in a game, practice more...  Sadly too, though, just picture the opposite, with a kid having a lousy experience one night, and not wanting to even look at his (or her) hockey gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a brief follow-up to that, Dan&#8230;  I&#8217;ve had the feeling for a long time that our love for the game &#8212; when we get older &#8212; comes from the sum-total of our earlier experiences.  I mean, even if we had a few rough bumps in the road, we&#8217;ll still very much love the game if the good (or great) experiences out-weigh those.  That&#8217;s why I make such a big deal out of our confidence-building in my posts here.  </p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s face it:  if a player feels good about himself (or herself) after a given rink visit, he likely dies to do more.  And he&#8217;s likely to work on his game at home.  With that, there tends to be a snowballing effect &#8212; do well at the rink, practice extra, do better in a game, practice more&#8230;  Sadly too, though, just picture the opposite, with a kid having a lousy experience one night, and not wanting to even look at his (or her) hockey gear.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Offerdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.coachchic.com/the-kind-of-coach-we-dont-want-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Offerdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There weren&#039;t that many bad experiences playing hockey, and there is no other game I loved to play as much. I played some golf, football, baseball, tried basketball and tennis, played 13 years of soccer and hockey. That experience was probably the worst. In high school though, my 9th, 10th, and 11th grade years I had one coach who I really enjoyed, but he got a job as an assistant coach in South St. Paul and left us. My 12th grade we had a new coach, one who played favorites, or played kids he knew from the past. Well, since I refuse to kiss butt to get ahead, even though I was the best player on that team, and by far the best d-man he had, he never seem to like me much, and some games, for no reason at all, I&#039;d have my ice time cut. One day, I just got sick of the nonsense, told the coach mid game that I deserved better, and after a few minutes of argumentative banter between us, I ended up just going to the locker room, changing into my street clothes, and left the arena. The next day the coach called my mom, set up a meeting between me, my mom, and him, and he essentially kissed my butt for a half hour apologizing over and over for his actions. The rest of the season went fine. However, apparently he fell into that hole again the next season, and I was told by a hockey parent that he was fired after that season because the players and parents were sick of what he was doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There weren&#8217;t that many bad experiences playing hockey, and there is no other game I loved to play as much. I played some golf, football, baseball, tried basketball and tennis, played 13 years of soccer and hockey. That experience was probably the worst. In high school though, my 9th, 10th, and 11th grade years I had one coach who I really enjoyed, but he got a job as an assistant coach in South St. Paul and left us. My 12th grade we had a new coach, one who played favorites, or played kids he knew from the past. Well, since I refuse to kiss butt to get ahead, even though I was the best player on that team, and by far the best d-man he had, he never seem to like me much, and some games, for no reason at all, I&#8217;d have my ice time cut. One day, I just got sick of the nonsense, told the coach mid game that I deserved better, and after a few minutes of argumentative banter between us, I ended up just going to the locker room, changing into my street clothes, and left the arena. The next day the coach called my mom, set up a meeting between me, my mom, and him, and he essentially kissed my butt for a half hour apologizing over and over for his actions. The rest of the season went fine. However, apparently he fell into that hole again the next season, and I was told by a hockey parent that he was fired after that season because the players and parents were sick of what he was doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Chighisola</title>
		<link>http://www.coachchic.com/the-kind-of-coach-we-dont-want-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Chighisola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to delay a little while to drink-in what you said, Dan.  

And, hmmmm...  The hockey experience you related actually reminded me of a few of my own -- having grown-up playing baseball, football and hockey.  And, although those kinds of (really negative) events were few and far between, I do recall almost wanting to quit at times.

So, I think that&#039;s the message we all have to gain -- from your comment, and from the parent who inspired this line of discussion...  The reason kids sign-up for a program is because they think it&#039;s going to be fun.  And, if it isn&#039;t, at least most of the time, they&#039;re not going to stay in the game for long.

Then, this interesting aside...  One of the rinks I regularly skate at has some over-30, over-40 and over-50 senior leagues.  And in the lobby I&#039;ll often spot ex-NHL-ers, former college greats, and even a bunch of my old players or students.  And I think to myself, &quot;The sum total of their earlier experiences had to be pretty positive, for them to still love the game the way they obviously do.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to delay a little while to drink-in what you said, Dan.  </p>
<p>And, hmmmm&#8230;  The hockey experience you related actually reminded me of a few of my own &#8212; having grown-up playing baseball, football and hockey.  And, although those kinds of (really negative) events were few and far between, I do recall almost wanting to quit at times.</p>
<p>So, I think that&#8217;s the message we all have to gain &#8212; from your comment, and from the parent who inspired this line of discussion&#8230;  The reason kids sign-up for a program is because they think it&#8217;s going to be fun.  And, if it isn&#8217;t, at least most of the time, they&#8217;re not going to stay in the game for long.</p>
<p>Then, this interesting aside&#8230;  One of the rinks I regularly skate at has some over-30, over-40 and over-50 senior leagues.  And in the lobby I&#8217;ll often spot ex-NHL-ers, former college greats, and even a bunch of my old players or students.  And I think to myself, &#8220;The sum total of their earlier experiences had to be pretty positive, for them to still love the game the way they obviously do.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Offerdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Offerdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The other night after a game, the coach of a Pee Wee level team was belittling and badgering his kids so badly that they came off the ice crying.  They had a practice later the same night, and that coach told his players not to bring sticks.  A lot of the kids now want to quit the game all together.  So, I want to know why this guy is a coach? &quot;

That happened to me in Bantams. I had a coach that had us skate for an hour and a half straight, never saw a puck that day. Was one of the most miserable experiences I ever had in hockey. It didn&#039;t improve our team any. All it did was upset a lot of players and parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The other night after a game, the coach of a Pee Wee level team was belittling and badgering his kids so badly that they came off the ice crying.  They had a practice later the same night, and that coach told his players not to bring sticks.  A lot of the kids now want to quit the game all together.  So, I want to know why this guy is a coach? &#8221;</p>
<p>That happened to me in Bantams. I had a coach that had us skate for an hour and a half straight, never saw a puck that day. Was one of the most miserable experiences I ever had in hockey. It didn&#8217;t improve our team any. All it did was upset a lot of players and parents.</p>
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